NOTHING'S BETTER THAN FRESH FOOD FROM THE GARDEN.

I JUST CAN'T SAY THAT ENOUGH THIS PARTICULAR PLANT WILL ACTUALLY SHOOT UP ADDITIONAL LEAF TISSUE.

THE PROGRAM WAS TO CREATE FOOD FOR THE PUBLIC.

THEY ARE PUBLIC ORCHARDS.

THE LOT OF WORK, BUT REALLY IS WORTH IT WHEN YOU SEEK GORGEOUS HELLO AND WELCOME TO GREAT GARDENING.

I'M DENNIS LAMKIN YOUR HOST THIS EVENING.

WE HAVE OUR GARDEN EXPERTS WITH US TONIGHT.

THEY ARE HORTICULTURIST AND EDUCATOR BOB OLIN AND GARDNER GARDEN PROFESSIONAL DEB BURNS ERICKSON, AS ALWAYS WE WANT TO HEAR FROM GARDENERS ACROSS THE REGION WHO HAVE QUESTIONS FOR OUR EXPERTS ON ALL THINGS GARDENING VOLUNTEERS FROM THE SAINT LOUIS COUNTY MASTER GARDENERS PROGRAM ARE HERE TO ANSWER PHONES CALL LOCALLY.

AT 218 788-2844 TOLL-FREE EIGHT SEVEN SEVEN THREE ZERO SEVEN EIGHT SEVEN SIX TWO OR YOU CAN EMAIL QUESTIONS TO ABOUT THE CURRENT CONDITIONS EXCITED WAS WARM TODAY.

IT WAS SUNNY AND DOWN NEAR THE LAKE.

WE MELTED A LOT OF SNOW UP OVER THE HILL WHERE YOU AND I BOTH WAS THAT WE GOT PLENTY SNOW YET, BUT IT'S LEAVING US QUICKLY.

THERE WAS WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS.

THAT'S A TIME LAPSE NEXT WEEK.

IT'S ALL GONE AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOMETHING GREEN AND HOPEFULLY WELL THE THEME FOR TONIGHT'S EPISODE IS GREENHOUSES.

WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION COMING UP BUT FIRST.

WE VISITED WITH EDDIE GILMORE DULUTH.

HE'S A MICRO GREEN GROWER WHO RUNS INSTAGRAM ACCOUNT AT TINY FARM DULUTH, AND HE GAVE US A TOUR OF HIS SPACE.

I'M EDDIE GILMORE.

WE ARE IN DULUTH IN THE LAKESIDE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE'RE IN A GROW ROOM IN MY HOME.

IT'S AN ADDITION THAT WE BUILT FOR THE MICROWAVE.

BEEN DOING MICROGREENS FOR FIVE YEARS FARM AND FOR SIX I STARTED OUT IN PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS GROWING TRADITIONAL CROPS RADISH CARROTS LETTUCE, YOU KNOW THINGS LIKE THAT GRADUALLY.

I JUST YEAH JUST MIGRATED INTO MICROGREENS AND FILLED FILLED THAT NICHE IN THE CITY.

MICROGREENS ARE JUST BABY PLANTS.

SO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MICROGREENS AND SPROUTS.

IS IT JUST ANOTHER STAGE?

MICROGREENS ARE GROWN IN SOIL AND WHEN I HARVEST THEM, WE'LL TAKE A VERY VERY SHARP KNIFE AND CUT THEM OBVIOUSLY ABOVE THE SOIL.

AND THEN THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE EATING.

SO THESE WILL BE READY AT DAY EIGHT.

I PUT THESE KEY SEED IN THE WATER AND SOAK IT FOR EIGHT HOURS PLUS AND THEN I'M JUST THROWING IT ON TOP OF A VERY BASIC SOIL MIX.

I STACK THEM PUT TWO 17 POUND BRICKS ON TOP OF IT AND THEN I WALK AWAY AND THREE DAYS LATER LIKE MAGIC.

IT'S IT'S THERE.

LIKE IT'LL BE LIKE 80 DEGREES IN HERE AND THEN HEAT IS LIKE THE MAIN FACTOR AND HOW FAST THINGS GROW SO SIMPLE THOUGH.

THE GOODNESS SO LIKE THIS IS A 10 BY 20 TRAY 10 20.

IT'S CALLED YOU KNOW, LIKE I WOULD SAY A PERSONAL USE PERSON WOULD BUY A 10 BY 10.

THESE ARE PEA SHOOTS.

THESE ARE PEA SHOOTS RIGHT WHEN THEY COME OUT OF GERMINATION.

SO THREE DAYS AFTER I PLANT THEM TO LOOK LIKE THAT.

THESE ARE RADISHES JUST IMMEDIATELY COMING OUT OF GERMINATION AS WELL.

THIS IS ENOUGH PC FOR THREE THREE TRAYS.

AND I LIKE TO GIVE IT A LITTLE RINSE.

AND THEN I'LL JUST DUMP IT INTO THIS THING AND WE'LL GO OUTSIDE AND WE'LL PLANT IT.

I LIKE TO USE GOOD WARM WATER SINCE WE'RE OUTSIDE.

ALL RIGHT, BIG MOVEMENTS.

THESE TRAYS HAVE SLOTS IN THEM.

SO THE WATER WILL DRAIN OBVIOUSLY YOU NEED TO TRAY THAT'S GONNA DRAIN LIKE THIS THESE AND THEN I'M GOING TO NEST THEM INTO THIS ONE WITH NO HOLES.

I'M DOING ONE TRAY OF RADISH.

AND THREE TRAYS OF PEAS SO RELATIVELY EVEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO OVERTHINK IT.

NOW HERE'S THE P SEED.

I'M JUST GONNA DUMP IT ON THE DIRT IF YOU'RE PLANTING PEAS OUTSIDE DEFINITELY SOAK THEM AND FOR EIGHT HOURS, BUT ONCE THEY'RE SOAKED AND THEY JUST WANT TO GROW.

ALL RIGHT TIME TO WATER IT IN.

NICE AND BIG WE'RE SWEEPING BACK AND FORTH BACK AND FORTH LIKE A WINDSHIELD WIPER.

NOW I'M JUST GONNA STACK THEM.

AND NOW I'M GONNA PUT THESE UP TOP AND PUT A COUPLE BRICKS ON THEM.

ONCE AGAIN IN THREE DAYS.

I'LL LOOK EXACTLY LIKE LIKE THOSE DO THERE.

THIS IS WEEK AFTER WEEK AFTER WEEK, VERY DEPENDABLE AND PEOPLE LOVE IT.

SO LIKE WITH ANYTHING YOU JUST START DOING IT YOU START GROWING AND YOU YOU JUST ADAPT.

VERY INTERESTING.

LET'S GET TO A FEW.

SO WE HAVE FIRST QUESTION FROM TERRY FROM GRAND RAPIDS.

WHAT'S THE BEST TIME TO SPLIT HOSTAS AND LILIES?

GOOD TAKE A CRACK AT THAT.

WELL, I WOULD WAIT TILL THEY ARE EMERGING A LITTLE BIT AND THEN I WOULD START TO.

WELL RAKE BACK IF YOU HAVE ANY, YOU KNOW DEBRIS ABOVE IT AND SEE HOW BIG IT IS.

SEE HOW MUCH YOU SHOULD REALLY SPLIT APART FROM IT.

I LIKE TO TAKE I DON'T REALLY LIKE TO JUST GO INTO QUARTERS, BUT I LIKE TO TAKE SMALLER WEDGES OUT JUST SO THAT I DON'T YOU CAN HAVE MORE LOSS IF YOU TAKE A BIG CUT OUT OF SOMETHING THAN IF YOU JUST TAKE OUT SOME AND THEN YOU JUST YOU CAN EITHER UP OR START MOVING THEM AROUND AND THE NICE THING IS THAT THOSE ARE A COUPLE OF PLANTS THAT DO TRANSPLANT READILY AND THE TIME OF YEAR EASIER IN THE SPRING AND EARLY FALLEN TEMPERATURE A LITTLE COOLER, BUT THEY TRANSPLANT JUST ABOUT ANY TIME RIGHT LESS STRESS ON THEM.

YOU CAN DO THEM IN THE MIDDLE OF SUMMER, BUT YOU BETTER WATER THEM.

YEAH BETTER PLENTY OF WATER.

YEAH.

ALSO, SHE SAYS HER CRABAPPLE TREE SEEMED TO BE DYING.

THE BRANCHES ARE STARTING TO DIE.

WHAT CAN SHE DO ABOUT IT?

OH, THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO TAKE A LITTLE LOOK AT.

THAT WOULDN'T WE EXACTLY WHAT MIGHT BE CAUSING THAT?

THIS TIME OF YEAR.

WE SEE A LOT OF SUNS CALLED ACTUALLY THAT THAT DAMAGES TREE AND TREES HAVE A CERTAIN.

VIDEO AS WELL.

SO WE'D LIKE TO KNOW PERHAPS HOW OLD THAT TREE IS.

BUT IF IT'S A YOUNGER TREE AND THERE'S A LOT OF DAMAGE TO THE BARK.

I THINK EITHER PAINTING WITH A LATEX PAINT ON AN OIL PAINT PAINT THAT SOUTH SIDE OR WRAP TREE MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE GETTING ANY OF THAT DAMAGE FROM THE WARM SUN REFLECTING OFF THE SNOW THIS TIME OF YEAR.

SO IF THAT COULD BE A PORTION OF THE PROBLEM, THEY'RE ALSO VULNERABLE.

SCAB AND SOME OTHER FUNGAL DISEASES, SO WE'D HAVE TO TAKE A LITTLE CLOSER LOOK REALLY DENNIS, OKAY.

MARY FROM DULUTH KEPT HER GERANIUMS IN THE SUNROOM ALL WINTER WHEN CAN SHE START BRINGING THEM OUTSIDE OUTSIDE?

YEAH.

OH WE WANT TO BE ABOVE YOU KNOW FREEZING.

NOT TODAY.

NO NOT TONIGHT AND YOU KNOW A LOT OF TIMES I I LIKE TO GIVE THEM A NICE FRESH CUT BACK TO START WITH SO THAT YOU DON'T GET LONG.

PEOPLE LET THESE GERANIUMS GET SO LONG AND JUST SO LEGGY AND I KNOW YOU'RE DELAYING THE BLOOM, BUT IF YOU GIVE THEM A NICE CUT BACK YOU WOULD SAFELY GO HALFWAY BACK WITHOUT ANY ISSUE AND THEN THEY'LL START TO BREAK BELOW NICER AND MORE COMPACT MORE APPEALING GERANIUM.

SO I WOULD START NOW AND AND START CUTTING IT BACK SHAPING IT AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO WATCH NIGHT TIME TEMPERATURES JUST LIKE ANYTHING ELSE.

YEAH.

YOU'RE ONE OUT AND BRING THEM BACK IN.

YEAH, YOU KNOW ONE THING THAT I SUGGEST PEOPLE YOU'RE RIGHT WHEN THEY CUT THEM BACK AND YOU AS SOON AS THE DAYS ARE GETTING LONGER IF YOU'VE GOT A WARM ENVIRONMENT YOU COULD CUT THOSE BACK DELAYS THE BLOOM.

SO I LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT PEOPLE BUY SOME NEW MATERIAL EVERY YEAR FOR THE EARLY BLOOM IN THE SEASON AND THEN THOSE ARE TO CUT BACK WILL BE BOOMING JUST A LITTLE BIT LATER ON AND YOU'RE CONSTANTLY RENEWING THAT VEGETATIVE MATERIAL THAT WAY.

YEAH GREAT.

CAROL WHERE CAN I BUY AN ENGLISH ROSE AND IT IS IT A GOOD BORDER SHRUB?

WE'RE TALKING AUSTIN DAVID.

I MEAN IS THAT WAS JUST THINKING I'M NOT SURE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT AN ENGLISH AN OLD-FASHIONED ENGLISH ROSE.

I REALLY THINK IN I THINK IN WHICH SHE'S TALKING ABOUT THERE.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE VERY HARDY.

YOU KNOW, WE UNLESS YOU'RE WILLING TO PROTECT THEM.

I'M SURE THEY'RE THERE ARE PLACES WHERE YOU COULD ACCESS AND A LOT OF ROSE GROWERS.

ON THE WEST COAST IN OREGON THAT WHERE YOU CAN GET THAT TYPE OF OLDER MATERIAL.

BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE PARTIAL REALLY TO SOME OF THE SHRUB ROSES AND IN PARTICULAR SOME OF THE CANADIAN SHRUB ROSES MORE DEVELOPED UP IN MORE THAN AT THEIR RESEARCH STATION THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE SO VERY HARDY HERE PUT THEM IN THE GROUND ONCE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT COVERING THEM.

THERE MAY BE A LITTLE BIT OF DAMAGE TO THE UPPER PORTION.

YOU JUST TRIM THEM UP EVERY YEAR AND THEY CAN BE VERY VERY MAGNIFICENTLY SPRING HERE LITTLE PARTIAL WHEN A BIG PARKS, TOO.

THAT'S A NICE BORDER ROSE.

THAT'D BE VERY NICE.

LET'S SEE, WE HAVE ONE HERE JUST CAME IN BETTY FROM DULUTH.

I HAVE SOFTENED WATER.

WOULD THIS CAUSE THE PLANT LEAVES TO TURN BROWN?

WE CAN'T YEAH WHAT COULD BUT IT'S ALL THAT IT'S WELL, IT'S THERE'S THAT SODIUM SALT EXCHANGERS NOT ACTUALLY THAT TYPE OF SALT BUT IT'S ACTUALLY THE FLUORIDE IN THE WATER THAT CAN CAUSE THE TIPS.

O'BRIEN, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE FACT IT'S BEEN SOFTENED BUT SOFTENED IN QUOTES, BUT I THINK AND I'VE ADVISED PEOPLE FOR YOUR HOUSE PLANTS PARTICULARLY ON SOME OF THOSE THIN LEAF MATERIALS.

THE SPIDER PLANT CHLOROPHYTUM IS ONE THAT'S VERY VULNERABLE TO FLUORIDE.

TAKE THE WATER YOU'RE GOING TO USE FOR WATERING AND LET IT SIT FOR 24 HOURS AT ALL EVAPORATES THE FLUORIDE EVAPORATES OUT OF THE WATER AND SHE'S NOT GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT AND SHE MIGHT WANT TO PRUNE IT UP A LITTLE BIT.

THIS IS TIME OF YEAR IS THE DAYS ARE GETTING LONGER THAT YOU CAN CUT THOSE IF THERE IS SOME DAMAGE THAT WON'T BE RECOVERABLE, BUT PRUNE IT UP A LITTLE BIT AND THEN WAS SOMETHING WITHOUT THE FLUORIDE IN IT, AND SHE FOUND THOSE TIPS IF YOU JUST CUT UP TO WHERE THE BROWN STARTS DON'T YOU DON'T ALWAYS HAVE TO CUT INTO THE GREEN MATERIAL BECAUSE THEN IT'S GOING TO BROWN IT'S GOING TO HEAL ITSELF.

SO YOU CAN JUST GO TO THE EDGE OF IT, SO YOU'RE NOT CUTTING INTO THE GREEN MATERIAL.

DIANE FROM DULUTH WHAT HOUSE PLANTS ARE THERE THAT ARE NOT TO TO HER CAPTOR KITTENS, SO WE JUST SAID SPIDER PLANTS.

YEAH SPIDER PLANTS AND PEPPERONIA.

WE TALKED ABOUT THAT LAST WEEK BIG FAMILY PLANTS THERE.

YEAH, LOTS OF AND EASY TO CARE FOR UM, WHAT ELSE IS THERE?

YOU KNOW WHEN PEOPLE ASK OFTEN ABOUT HOUSE PLANTS THAT MIGHT BE TOXIC.

I ALWAYS ADVISE ANYTHING THAT HAS A BARRIER OF ANY TYPE.

THAT'S NUMBER ONE.

YOU WANT TO BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL OF NECK MAY ATTRACTIVE PARTICULARLY YOUNGER KIDS AS WELL AS POTENTIALLY CATS ANYTHING MAYBE WITH A MILKY SAP AS WELL SURE, YOU KNOW THE U FORMS AND SO FORTH YOU WANT TO BE CAREFUL OF THOSE AND THEN AND JUST AS A GENERAL RULE, YOU DON'T WANT TO WANT YOUR ANIMALS OR ANYONE EATING THE VEGETATIVE PORTION OF ANY HOUSE PLANT REALLY, RIGHT?

WHAT ARE THE BEST GRAPES TO GROW IN DULUTH?

WELL, WE'RE PARTIAL TO VALIANT I THINK IS ONE OF THE REAL GREAT ONES OUT THERE AND BETA BETA WHICH IS A AN INTRODUCTION.

ACTUALLY THAT HAS SOME OF OUR WILD GRAPE IN IT.

WE REALLY GOT THREE BIG ONES THAT I RECOMMEND WE'VE GOT BETA VALIANT AND BLUE BELL AND WHAT ABOUT KATE TERRY?

WELL, YEAH.

YEAH, AND THEY WERE INTRODUCTIONS FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH DAKOTA OR SOUTH DAKOTA YOU AND THEN THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA SO YOU CAN YOU CAN SUPPORT ALL THREE OF THESE GREAT EGG GLEN EGG.

INSTITUTIONS BY BUYING ONE OF THREE BLUE BELL VALIANT AND BETA ALL RIGHT.

ARE THERE ANY NEW PLANTS?

YOU'D RECOMMEND FOR THE SPRING DOESN'T SAY, BUT I ASSUME PROBABLY TALKING ABOUT FLOWERS FLOWERS ANNUALS THERE.

WE HAVE ONE ON THE DESK, WHICH IS A NEW HEADLINER STRAWBERRY SURPRISE.

IT'S A IT'S GOT A SPOT TO IT.

IT'S A PETUNIA AND IT'S GOT REALLY NICE GROWTH HABIT ON IT.

THAT IS SOMETHING NEW THIS YEAR.

IT'S VERY ATTRACTIVE AND YOU GET SMOOTH.

THERE'S YEAH, RIGHT.

YEAH AND ANOTHER ONE HERE AND THAT'S DIFFERENT AND IS A NEW VERBENA IS REALLY NICE FOR BEING US PROVEN WINNER DID A NICE VERBENA A NEW HELIOTROPE FROM PROVEN WINNERS.

ALSO, THAT'S GOT A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT GROWTH HABIT AND A LITTLE BIT LIGHTER COLOR TO THE HELIOTROPE AND IT DOESN'T IT CAN TAKE THE HEAT AND THE HUMIDITY BETTER, BUT THERE'S ACROSS THE BOARD ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE AVAILABLE THIS YEAR AND IF PEOPLE WANT POLLINATOR FRIENDLY, I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT ON SATURDAY.

WHAT?

YOU JUST GENERALLY RECOMMEND LIKE AN OPEN FACE DAISY, YOU KNOW, THE GERBERUS ARE GOOD AND THEY WANT POLLEN AND THEY WANT NECT.

HOLLAND IS THEIR PROTEIN AND NECTAR IS THEIR CARBOHYDRATES.

SO AN OPEN FACE FLOWER A LOT OF TIMES WILL GIVE THEM BOTH THINGS AND SOMETHING THAT CAN SUPPORT THEIR WEIGHT WHEN THEY'RE ON IT, TOO.

THAT'S HELPFUL.

GENE FROM ESCO WHERE CAN I GET MY SOIL TESTED?

OH, THERE WE GO, EITHER UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN.

WE ALWAYS RECOMMEND A CERTIFIED LAB.

SO OUR PRIVATE LABS OUT THERE, JUST GOOGLE SOIL TEST LAB UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA SOIL TEST LAB UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN.

BOTH ARE CERTIFIED LABS, WHICH MEANS THE RESULTS ARE ACCURATE.

THEY'LL STAND UP IN COURT.

SO GET ONE AT LEAST ONE GOOD SOIL TEST SO, YOU KNOW WHERE THAT YOU'VE GOT RELIABLE INFORMATION TO START FROM STAY AWAY FROM SOME OF THE HOME KIDS.

GREAT DEB.

YOU WANTED TO SHARE A FEW TRICKS OF THE TRADE FOR GREENHOUSES.

SURE VERY YEAH FOR GREENHOUSE GROWING AND THESE ARE JUST MY OPINION AND THIS IS HOW WE DO IT.

I BELIEVE IN ORIENTING THE GREENHOUSE NORTH AND SOUTH SO WHEN IT'S WARM.

CAN GET A LOT OF WIND TO GO THROUGH FROM THE SOUTH BECAUSE WHEN IT'S WARM, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A SOUTH WIND SOMETIMES AND THAT'LL HELP VENTILATE AND GET THE HEAT OUT.

IT'S ALSO LESS OF A NORTH WALL TO HEAT AND TO KEEP WARM, SO IT'S EASIER TO WARM UP NUMBER TWO A KNEE WALL TO THE NORTH WALL AND INSULATE AND BURN UP AS MUCH OF THE WALLS AS YOU CAN BECAUSE THAT EARTH IS GOING TO GIVE YOU HEAT IN THE SPRING A LITTLE BIT SOONER AND HOLD HEAT A LITTLE BIT LONGER IN THE FALL.

YOU CAN COLLECT DAUGHTER FROM A HEAT SIT FOR A HEAT SINK FOR THE PLANTS INSTEAD OF WELL AND USE IT TO WATER INSTEAD OF WELL WATER OR CITY WATER WHICH IS METERED AND WELL WATERED CAN BE HARD WATER NUMBER FOUR WIRELESS.

THERMOMETERS MULTIPLE ONES.

YOU CAN USE THEM IN DIFFERENT AREAS, BUT THE MIDDLE OF THE GREENHOUSE IS THE WARMEST THE OUTSIDE WALLS ARE THE COOLEST SO YOU'D WANT TO WATCH WHERE THE COOL SPOTS ARE IF YOU'RE REALLY WORRIED ABOUT YOUR WHATEVER YOU'RE GROWING IN THERE AND ALSO, BUT YOU CAN A COOLER CROPS OUT TOWARDS THE WALLS NUMBER FIVE HEAT RISES.

IT COULD BE 30 DEGREES WARMER SIX FEET OFF THE GROUND THAN IT IS DOWN ON THE GROUND.

SO YOU'VE GOT TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AND WHAT YOUR PLACEMENT IS PUT YOUR HEAT LOVERS UP HIGH AND THE THINGS THAT CAN TOLERATE COLDER DOWN ON THE GROUND AND THEN NUMBER SIX.

FANS FANS FANS FANS FANS.

I LOVE FANS BECAUSE THEY MOVE THE COLD OFF THE GROUND.

THEY MOVE THE HEAT DOWN TO THE FLOOR.

THEY ELIMINATE COLD ZONES AND HOT JUST EQUALIZE EVERYTHING SO WELL, AND IT'S A LOT BETTER GROWING CONDITIONS FOR PLANTS NUMBER SEVEN USE FROST CLOTH TO COVER TENDER SEEDLINGS AND A HEAT WITH YOU CAN USE LIKE A CHICKEN HEATER.

YOU CAN USE ANY LITTLE HEATER IF YOU HAVE YOUR SEEDLINGS COVERED WITH FROST CLOTH AND THE HEAT CAN RISE UP FROM UNDERNEATH THEM AND THEN I WOULD ALWAYS HAVE TWO SOURCES OF HEAT.

IN CASE ONE FAILS BECAUSE THAT'S THE WORST THING TO HAPPEN NUMBER EIGHT WINDOWS AND DOORS FOR VENTILATION ALSO SHADE CLOTH FOR THE SUMMER TO COOL IT NUMBER NINE EXTEND YOUR GROWING SEASON BY SIX WEEKS IN THE BEGINNING OF SPRING AND IN THE FALL AND YOU CAN DO LATER PLANTINGS AND YOU CAN HARVEST A LOT MORE THINGS AND YOU ARE BECOMING MORE SUSTAINABLE MORE SELF-RELIANT LOWER COST FOR FOOD AND NUMBER 10.

THIS IS FOR MY FATHER DON'T PLANT MUCH JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN GROW IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU SHOULD GROW IT.

YOU STILL HAVE TO FIND ROOM TO PLANT IT AND TAKE CARE OF IT AND MAINTAIN IT.

SO DON'T DON'T OVERDO IT.

BUT THANKS DEB, YOU KNOW YOUR FATHER'S WATCHING RIGHT BRUCE AND TWO HARBORS BOUGHT A BAG OF PINK LADY APPLES AND THE SEEDS ARE SPROUTING.

CAN HE PLANT THESE?

WELL, IT SURE CAN BUT HE'S NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO GET A PINK LADY AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE CAN GUARANTEE HE'S NOT GONNA GET A PINK LADY.

ONCE THEY COME UP WITH A VARIETY AND THAT'S ONE THAT'S REALLY ISN'T AVAILABLE WITH GENERAL PUBLIC YET.

BUT ONCE THEY COME UP WITH A GOOD VARIETY, THEY TAKE VEGETATIVE CUTTINGS BECAUSE THEY WANT TO KEEP THE GENETICS PURE IN ANY TIME.

YOU'RE MIXING POLLEN.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A SEED THAT CARRIES THE CHARACTERISTICS OF BOTH PARENTS CONSEQUENTLY.

IT'S NOT GOING TO NECESS.

EARLY OF THE CHARACTERISTICS YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SO HE CAN PLANT THEM.

THEY'RE KIND OF FUN AND PROBABLY NOT THE HARDEST ROOTSTOCK IS GONNA COME ON THIS ROADSIDE LEADERS, BUT BETTY FROM DULUTH MY CLAIMING HYDRANGEA HAS BEEN NIBBLED BY RABBITS.

WILL IT COME BACK?

HOW MUCH NIBBLING?

DOES IT GO ALL THE WAY WE'RE IN TROUBLE?

YEAH, RIGHT IF IT'S SO GOING ALL THE WAY AROUND IF IT'S A MAIN STEM AND GRILLED ALL THE WAY AROUND.

IT'S TIME TO PRUNE AT GROUND LEVEL.

YEAH, AND THE FUNNY THING IS THIS IS TRUE ABOUT TENOR BARK TREES, TOO.

PUT IN A NEW APPLE TREE OR MAPLE OR SOMETHING AND IF IT GETS CURDLED ALL THE WAY AROUND AND WITH THE SNOW LEVEL SNOW COVER WILL SEE IT MAYBE UNDERNEATH THAT'S MOLES OR WE'LL SEE IT UP ON THE SNOW LINE IF IT'S GIRDLED ALL THE WAY DOWN.

IT'S A DEEP CUT.

THE TREE WILL -- OUT AND PEOPLE THINK THERE'S NO DAMAGE, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO REACH OUT STORED ENERGY.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO REPLENISH THAT SO IF IT'S THAT KIND OF EXTENSIVE DAMAGE PRUNED GROUND LEVEL AND PLAN A NEW ONE.

YEAH.

RICK WANTS TO KNOW WHEN'S THE BEST TIME TO IN AN APPLE TREE.

OH, DO YOU HAVE TIME YET?

NO, RIGHT.

NO.

I THINK WE COULD DO YOU THINK SO.

YEAH, IT'S COLD ENOUGH.

IT DEPENDS.

YEAH.

IT'S SUCH A LATE SPRING I GET OUT THERE TONIGHT.

WE STILL SHOWS DONE.

YEAH.

ACTUALLY WE CALL IT A DORMANT PRUNE.

THERE'S GOOD REASONS TO DO IT RIGHT NOW.

IT'S IT'S VERY STIMULATIVE AND YOU WANT TO STIMULATE GROWTH THIS TIME OF YEAR IF RUINING DURING THE MAIN SEASON FIRST OFF YOU OPEN UP A LOT OF WOUNDS WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR DANGER.

THEY'RE DAMAGED THERE FROM PATHOGENS IN THE ENVIRONMENT.

AND THEN ALSO IT HAS A TENDENCY TO REDUCE THE GROWTH.

SO WE WANT TO BE PRUNING RIGHT NOW.

LET'S SEE WE CAN GO TO A QUICK ONE.

WHY DOESN'T MY VIOLET BLOOM?

IT LOOKS HEALTHY, BUT DOESN'T DOESN'T SEEM TO WANT TO BLOOM.

NO BUDS.

NO NOTHING.

WELL, DOES SHE HAVE BUDS AT ALL?

NO, BUD.

NO BUDS.

NO, BUT NOTHING WELL, A LOT OF REASONS FIRST.

YOU GOT TO HAVE THAT VIGOR SO THERE'S GOT TO BE PLENTY OF SUN.

YEAH, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT TO WATCH YOUR YOUR NUTRIENT MANAGEMENT.

SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T THINK THEY'RE FERTILIZING BUT THEY'RE FERTILIZING ALL THE GROUND AROUND THAT SHRUB.

SO IT'S GETTING A LOT OF NITROGEN SO OFTEN TIMES WE CAN HAVE NOT TOO MUCH NITROGEN AT THE EXPENSE OF BUD FORMATION.

THE OTHER THING IS SOMETIMES IT TAKES A WHILE FOR THEM TO COME FROM THE JUVENILE STAGE THE ADULT STAGE AT WHAT POINT THEY'RE GOING TO SET THOSE REPRODUCTION REPRODUCTIVE FLOWERS.

SO SOMETIMES IS JUST A QUESTION OF PATIENCE, BUT IT CAN BE A NUMBER OF FACTORS.

BUT STAY WITH IT.

THEY GENERALLY WILL BLOOM FOR YOU.

OKAY?

BOB YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT UNHEATED GREENHOUSE STRUCTURES.

WELL, IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING WITH THE CURRENT PRICE OF ENERGY WHETHER IT BE PROPANE OR WHETHER IT BE FUEL OIL PEOPLE MIGHT CONSIDER NOT UNHEATED OPTION AND WE DO A LOT OF PRODUCTION NOW IN THESE CALLED HIGH TUNNELS WHERE WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A SUPPLEMENTAL HEAT SOURCE, SO WE'RE GONNA BE STARTING LATER.

THIS IS SOMETHING YOU'RE NOT GOING TO START IN JANUARY.

OBVIOUSLY AND YOU MIGHT HAVE TO SUPPLEMENT WITH SOME KIND OF AN ELECTRIC HEATER, BUT THEY'RE REALLY VERY USEFUL FOR PRODUCTION.

OBVIOUSLY, YOU DON'T HAVE SO MUCH OF A HEAT.

TO LACK OF HEAT.

YOU'VE GOT SURPLUS SEEDS.

SO WHEN YOU MENTIONED YOUR BIG FAN OF FANS, RIGHT?

I AM A FAN.

ARE YOU AT THE EXTREMELY CAREFUL ABOUT ANYTHING THAT'S UNHEATED ANYTHING THAT'S COVERED WITH POLY.

THEY CAN GET WARM VERY FAST.

EVEN IF IT'S EVEN BELOW FREEZING OUTSIDE.

SO YOU HAVE TO BE A LITTLE CAREFUL AND WE'VE GOT SOME OTHER OPTIONS AND HERE'S OPTIONS THAT ARE A LITTLE MORE PRACTICAL FOR THE HOMEOWNER AND THESE ARE A COUPLE EXAMPLES OF ONES WE'VE GROWN IN THIS AREA OR PRODUCED IN THIS AREA AND THEY'RE SMALLER.

I THINK YOU GET WITH SMALLER FACILITY LIKE THAT.

THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO MANAGE, BUT THEY ALSO CAN HEAT VERY QUICKLY.

SO THE LESS AIRSPACE YOU'VE GOT THE MORE YOU HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO THAT FAN GETTING THE VENTS OPEN OR IN THE CASE OF THE SMALLER RUN DOWN BELOW WHICH I PUT TOGETHER VERY SIMPLE TYPE OF A DEVICE BUT VENTS ON THE END AND YOU CAN ROLL UP THE SIDE SO YOU GOT TO BE VERY CAREFUL ON A WARM DATA TO MAKE SURE YOU GET THE HEAT OUT OF THERE.

GREAT.

BOB YOU WANTED TO MENTION AN EVENT COMING UP FOR THE COMMUNITY CALENDAR.

YEAH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT.

WE'RE GOING TO BE DOWN AT THE DEPOT THIS SATURDAY.

THAT'S JUST A DAY AND A HALF AWAY AND DEB'S GOING TO JOIN US.

WE HAPPEN TO HAVE WE PUT TOGETHER A RESOURCE BOOK EVERY YEAR AND DEB'S CONTRIBUTED SOME ORIGINAL MATERIAL.

THIS IS I DON'T KNOW MAYBE 75 OR 80 80 PAGES OF ORIGINAL MATERIAL ALL OF FRUIT VARIETY LISTS THE VEGETABLE VARIETY LISTS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CONCEPT OF AN INTEGRATED LANDSCAPE WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE POLLINATOR POLLINATING ANNUALS PERENNIALS TREES AND SHRUBS AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE POLLINATING YOUR VEGETABLES.

SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TOMATOES AND RIPE PEPPERS AS WELL AS SMALL FRUIT AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO INTEGRATE IT ALL WITH A BEEF FRIENDLY LAWN.

SO WITH ECOLOGICAL PRACTICES GOOD DAY.

THERE'S STILL A LITTLE BIT OF ROMEO THOUGH.

WE'RE NEARLY FULL AND IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, THERE'S THE PHONE NUMBER 733 2870 OR JUST GOOGLE SAINT LOUIS COUNTY EXTENSION AND THERE'S SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROGRAM THERE MAKE SURE YOU CALL TOMORROW ON FRIDAY BECAUSE THERE MAY NOT BE ROOM BY THE TIME WE TO SATURDAY MORNING.

OKAY.

LET'S WRAP THINGS UP WITH A FEW MORE QUESTIONS SCOTT FROM DULUTH.

WHAT DOES EDDIE DO WITH THE MICROGREENS?

WELL, ANY WAS A GROWER DOWN AT THE FARMERS MARKET SO HE WAS MARKETING.

THERE AND HE MAY BE MARKETING OTHER PLACES NOW, BUT HE'S FOUND AN OUTLET FOR THEM A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO CONSUME ALL THOSE YOURSELF TALK ABOUT THE SALAD THAT'S PLENTY OF SALAD AND I'M GONNA GUESS THAT HE DOES IT TO RESTAURANTS AND ALSO TO WHOLE FOODS I KNOW THERE IS A MARKET FOR IT AND I'M ASSUMING THAT HE HAS SOME OTHER OUTLETS AS WELL.

CAN YOU PLANT THE SUNFLOWER SEEDS THAT ARE SOLD AS BIRD?

FOOD MARY WANTED TO KNOW FROM DULUTH.

WELL, OKAY I HAVE SO WE FLOODED ONE YEAR AND WE HAD SUNFLOWERS IN OUR GARAGE AND THEY WENT EVERYWHERE AND WE HAD THE MOST BEAUTIFUL AND WAS THE FOURTH OF JULY WHEN WE FLOODED AND WE HAD BEAUTIFUL SUNFLOWERS ALL OVER IN OUR FIELDS SO YOU CAN WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE GONNA GET THE SUNFLOWERS BECAUSE OF THE DATE AND HOW LONG THEY ARE AND HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET TO MATURITY DEFINITELY CAN AND WE'RE GONNA GIVE PEOPLE THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF SUNFLOWERS.

YOU WANT TO LOOK FOR A VARIETIES THAT HAVE HOLLAND SOME OF THE NEW ORNAMENTALS ARE POLLEN FREE AND THAT DOESN'T HELP THE POLLINATORS BUT IN OIL SEED THE HONEY BEES DON'T PARTICULARLY LIKE THAT THOSE FLOWERS, BUT THE OTHER POLLINATING INSECTS DO SO IF YOU WANT SOMETHING THAT DOES EVERYTHING STICK WITH THE OLD-FASHIONED VARIETIES LIKE THE GIANT MAMMOTH AND THE EVEN THE RUSSIAN MAMMOTH, THEY'RE GREAT VARIETIES THAT THE BEES LOVE AND THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL IN YOUR BACKYARD AS WELL.

BUT THE OLD GERMINATE IF YOU IF YOU WANT TO USE THAT FOR BIRD BIRD SEED OR EVEN SOME OF THE SEED VARIETIES LEE WANTS TO KNOW HOW DO YOU TRANSPLANT A CHRISTMAS CACTUS?

OH, WELL, I MEAN, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE.

OKAY, SO MISS CACTUS IS RELATIVELY EASY TO TRANSPLANT.

IT'S JUST DEPENDENT ON YOU KNOW, HOW ROOT BOUND IT IS IF YOU REALLY WANT TO TRANSPLANT IT AND WHY DO YOU REALLY WANT TO TRANSPLANT IT?

BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE A LITTLE ON THE SLOW GROWING THEY DON'T HAVE A BIG ROOT SYSTEM.

AND SO I MEAN MYSELF I WOULD JUST TAKE IT JUST LIKE ANYTHING ELSE.

FLIP IT OUT OF ITS CONTAINER AND HAVE ANOTHER CONTAINER READY TO GO INTO AND NOT MORE THAN AN INCH AROUND AND SOME NICE CLEAN LIGHT SOIL.

CACTI SOIL WOULD BE THE BEST SOIL AND JUST SET IT BACK IN FILL IN THE VOID AND WATER IT REALLY WELL WHEN YOU DO TRANSPLANT IT WELL SAID THEY LIKE TO BE ROOT BOUNCE SO DON'T OVER TRANSPLANT THOSE.

MARIANNE FROM SOUTH RANGE TULIPS ARE STARTING TO POKE THROUGH A LITTLE BIT.

SHOULD SHE UNCOVER THEM NOW?

YOU KNOW IF I WOULD BUT YOU BE CAREFUL PULL A STRAW BACK THEY CAN BE DEFORMED IF YOU HAVE REAL HEAVY STRAW LABOR PULL IT BACK, BUT BE PREPARED FOR REALLY GETS COLD TO COVER THEM UP AGAIN, OKAY?

WHEN SHOULD I WHEN SHOULD KATHY FROM CARLTON PRUNE HER ROSES?

YOU DO THAT RIGHT NOW BE GOOD IDEA OF PRUNE BACK TO THE THE PORTION THAT'S PLIABLE AND GREEN TAKE OFF THE DEAD MATERIAL AT THIS POINT, RIGHT?

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